Invited Tuesday of Europe 1, the former social adviser Nicolas Sarkozy believes that the announcement of Emmanuel Macron, who announced his preference for a calculation of pension rights related to the duration of contribution rather than the age of departure, "will drive a number of people to work beyond 62 years".

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Emmanuel Macron surprised his world on Monday, addressing the issue of the future pension reform. The President of the Republic has indeed announced his preference, in the proposed overhaul of the pension system, for a calculation of pension rights related to the duration of contribution rather than the age of departure. At the microphone of Europe 1, the former social adviser of Nicolas Sarkozy, Raymond Soubie, considers that this announcement is "a wise decision, but not a major decision".

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"It is a wise decision, but not a major decision in the pension process, because it means that the average age of retirement is delayed for reasons of financial equilibrium" -t it. For the pension reform, "there were three ways," said Raymond Soubie. "That taken in 2010, which is to put the retirement age of 62 to 64 years, that of putting a haircut or surtax so as to encourage people to work beyond 62 years, which was the project of Jean-Paul Delevoye, and finally the third way, recommended by Emmanuel Macron. " Concerning this last, Raymond Soubie reminds that this method had already been used by François Fillon in 2003 during its pension reform and by Marisol Touraine in 2014.

"Emmanuel Macron's method is probably more accurate"

This announcement Emmanuel Macron "will lead a number of people to work beyond 62 years," admits the former adviser Nicolas Sarkozy, "but that's the goal." "When Emmanuel Macron announced his reform during his presidential campaign, the accounts were supposed to be balanced, but the latest figures show the opposite, with a deficit of 8 to 10 billion per year in 2020 and a deficit that lasts until 2040. -2050. " "So anyway, we can not escape," he says again. But, he admits, "Emmanuel Macron's method is probably more accurate, because it is less difficult for people who have had a long career."

While, according to the boss of Medef Geoffroy Roux Bezieux, do not raise the age of retirement is to "lie by omission to the French, Raymond Soubie shares this analysis. "Today, to retire, it takes 62 years and 41 ½ years of contributions, you need both conditions at the same time.If you increase the 41 and a half to 43 years, it will take more work a long time and it will delay the age of departure, "he predicts.