- You said that you planned to move. Did it take place?
- Not yet. But in the near future it will definitely happen.
“Is it related to attacks on you?”
“That is the reason.” People already roughly understand where I live, they know the number of my car. At this stage of development, moving remains the only option.
- Do you think that the situation will develop?
- I am sure of that. Threat messages continue to arrive, in addition, a new chip has appeared. They started accusing me of homosexuality, forging correspondence in such a way, as if I myself confirmed it. In a word, overt persecution began.
“Afraid of your life?”
- It is difficult to say something about this. People are different, come across and are completely inadequate. Some wrote that this story has one end - I will get a bullet in the head. It is strange that not only Nurmagomedov’s fans write, but also strangers.
- Returning to the last attack. Can you tell in detail what exactly happened?
- Late at night I went to the store, after that I had to meet with a partner. Before turning, I slowed down, and at that moment a brick flew into my windshield and right door. There were people on the left, so I turned right and stopped.
- What happened then?
- One man began to hit with a pry on the right side window, the other four - with his fists on the left.
They shouted: “Come out.” At this moment, I was overwhelmed with emotions, because the car is not mine, but our common with my father. He got out of the car, but did not have time to do anything, only inflict a couple of blows. They attacked me from the back, knocked me to the ground, dragged along the asphalt. Tried to fight back, kick, but it was useless.
- When did it all end?
- They ran away as soon as they saw another approaching car. Although she went the other way.
“Did they shout something to you when they beat you?”
- They said: "apologize", "answer for the words" - everything like that. By and large, there wasn’t any dialogue there. There were mate and threats.
- After this incident, they approached you on the street and threatened you?
- No. I left home several times, but this never happened again. However, I was alarmed by rumors that local fighters allegedly were looking for me. I can not understand what caused it. My clip does not in any way offend other athletes or Dagestanis, nor does it affect religion. I am accused of trying to achieve hype, but it seems that someone else is pursuing these goals. Perhaps they want to get a fight with me.
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- You said that after the clip you were accused of nationalism. In your opinion, what exactly could have caused such accusations?
- I do not know. Perhaps the fact is that I am telling the truth. People cannot answer this with reason, so they start to invent different things. Initially, they generally called me a fascist, they said that I was promoting homosexuality in Russia.
- Why all of a sudden?
- Perhaps this is due to my hairstyle. There were many comments on the topic of my image. In my opinion, some people are limited in their vocabulary, and they have nothing more to say. Now I’m not fomenting, but those who write insults to me.
- You did not want to offend the inhabitants of the Caucasus with this video?
- Of course not.
“Five months ago you were already attacked.” What happened then?
- Partly to blame himself, did not say anything. A few guys walked by, they didn’t like something. They pushed me, and I asked: "What, is not enough space?" Since this all started. But I was outraged by the fact that then many served it through the prism of racial hostility. They were sure that the attack was made by visitors.
- It does not matter?
- What's the difference? No matter what nationality they were. The main thing is that this is an ill-bred redneck.
- When did it happen?
- December 13, but the story untwisted only a week later. Therefore, many mistakenly said that this happened right before the Fight Nights Global tournament, held on December 28. They assured that it was allegedly specially tuned.
- Speaking of threats, didn’t you think of contacting law enforcement agencies about this?
- I position myself as an independent person who is not afraid of anything. I am sure this will be regarded as a manifestation of weakness. As soon as I write a statement to the police, they will peck me even more: “Everything is clear with you. What kind of fighter are you after? ” Fundamentally I do not want to do this.
- What and to whom do you want to prove?
- That I am not afraid. I live in my own country, where I should not be afraid in such situations. He did not kill or rape anyone. Why am I forced to feel fear after speaking about the athlete? And I did not question his athletic qualities or achievements, but simply expressed an opinion about his behavior. For this they should now quart?
- What do other people do in such situations?
- I have nothing against them contacting the police. No need to go out and arrange lynching. Unfortunately, as practice shows, not everyone understands differently. As soon as you write a statement, people begin to behave differently.
- Any examples?
- Yes. After the fight at the tournament, Fight Nights was in the hospital with a taxi driver who was very badly beaten in a fight with a passenger. He appealed to law enforcement agencies, after which his fellow countrymen came to him and asked him to pick up the statement. There were 20-30 people in the room, and some were still standing on the street. They asked, offered money, made excuses that he was drunk.
- Do you think this could have the same effect in your situation?
“I know very well that the story could have ended on this.” I would not be so actively written.
- You expected that this clip will cause such a huge resonance in Russian MMA?
- Undoubtedly. My father dissuaded me, assured me: “You should not do this, because you understand how people will react. Many will behave inappropriately. " But I still took this step.
- Why did you decide to release the clip?
- This is my creative approach to solving the problem in Russian mixed martial arts. I am sure that in the future it will help to make the MMA audience more loyal, reasonable, and most importantly, tactful. Which will lead to an increase in the number of spectators and fans, because this sport will no longer be considered barbaric.
- Now many people think that your main task is to promote at the expense of the UFC champion ...
- That's not the point. But who else should I write about, if now all the main attention is focused on him? About those people who have no influence on the development of Russian MMA? I could write a song about John Jones, who stepped on the same rake over and over again. But here he does not care about anyone.
- What do you think, in this case, the reaction would be similar?
“I'm sure neither Jones fans nor McGregor fans would write to me.” It's all about attitude. You need to be calm about criticism. Yes, you can hotly debate, but to send threats of violence, rape - this is not normal.
- Why is the video called “The King of Hypocrisy”?
- Due to double standards. For example, in the team of Nurmagomedov they condemn the same McGregor, but they themselves behave in the same way. They say one thing, and then in reality it turns out another.
- At the moment, do you regret publishing this clip?
- No. I understood what I was going for and that it would be hard for me. People say that I made a big mistake. But it seems to me that in this way I showed the situation in Russian MMA.
- Doesn’t it seem that many people took your clip with hostility because your country generally doesn’t treat thrash current very well?
- That is the problem. Perhaps something is not accepted here, but people are interested to watch when there is a trash talk, show elements, history. It turns out like a series, a movie. People want to see something more than scuffle.
- What response did you get from the audience?
- Many supported, approved what I do. But there was enough negative. Even among the fighters I was called a pontorez, they said that men do not behave like that. That you just need to quietly and calmly go to your goal. But I have a different opinion. I’m trying to show that MMA is interesting, beautiful. Look at tournaments in Japan - it's more like a theater.
- Do not you think that the negative reaction may be due to the fact that Nurmagomedov is the undefeated champion of the UFC, and Kuznetsov is a fighter of less prestigious promotions with statistics 11: 6?
- Yes, people believe that a person does not have the right to speak on certain topics if he has not reached certain heights. But at the same time, they actively condemn the authorities, various organizations and companies.
- How do you feel about this?
- I think this is a big mistake. I don’t understand why I have no right to talk about him if I have six defeats.
- Have you personally met with Nurmagomedov?
- No never. Many people write to me: “Why don’t you tell him all this in person?” I believe that it is not necessary to know a person personally in order to form an opinion about him. I would not call him an intolerable person. But there are certain points that show who he really is.
“When did you start watching him?”
- In fact, I’ve been doing mixed martial arts not so long ago. But since 2014, he has been following Habib. To me he was very cute as a fighter. Maybe in some places his fights may seem boring, but he is effective. He won, did not speak much, behaved modestly.
- Judging by what is presented in the clip, you started to dislike Nurmagomedov for a long time ...
- When McGregor got a fight with Eddie Alvarez. At that moment, Habib was used to bring down Conor’s fee. After that, Nurmagomedov began to use trash-current, and his teammates began to hurt the Irishman. Tagir Ulanbekov (a fighter from the team of Khabib Eagles MMA. - RT ) called him "Makchiken" or something like that.
“Do you think Nurmagomedov himself has changed, or simply his statements have not been made so public before?”
- They say that fame and money spoil people, but in my opinion, the point here is that his words were not published so often. No errors were visible.
- Let's go through all the key episodes of the clip separately. Tell us, what does the moment with Lev Tolstoy's inverted book “War and Peace” mean?
- In 2015, I watched an interview with Nurmagomedov. The journalist asked him what books he had read recently. He replied that he prefers articles, magazines - everything related to MMA. But at the same time, a man wrote an autobiography. It seemed a little funny to me.
- In the video, you also recalled how Nurmagomedov opposed the screening of the play “Hunting for Men” ...
- The fact is that the appeal for its closure was made in too harsh a form. He has over 20 million followers on Instagram. Imagine what influence he has?
“In your opinion, how should he have filed this?”
- It was possible to explain normally, to say that it wasn’t accepted in our country, we honor traditions from generation to generation. Like, why did you decide to hold such a show or concert with us, think it over. But it was said about lawlessness, the absence of laws, the exit of people into the streets.
- Therefore, the whole thing is in form, and not in the promise itself?
- Do not have the right to talk about the promise. With their charter, they don’t go to someone else’s monastery. But fueling conflict is wrong.
- You can say that in the case of the scandal with Timati and Yegor Creed, the matter was also in the form in which Nurmagomedov and his entourage expressed their position?
-They rudely insulted Yegor Creed and Timati. Perhaps they have tracks that are not worth listening to young people. However, they do not call for or encourage violence. Why didn’t the fans of the musicians threaten anyone, didn’t say that they would beat someone, rape him?
- Also in the video there is a reference to the video, on which Nurmagomedov and his teammates offered the homeless to push up for money ...
“I don’t understand how it might occur to laugh at the homeless.” You are a public person. It doesn't matter if he brought himself to such a life or not, but you are smarter. You have to understand that you cannot afford this.
- They claimed that it was about promoting sports ...
- I did not see anything positive in this, just bullying. Especially considering how they laughed at the homeless. These people have already made their choice. After such push-ups, it will only get worse if they have not done it before. You don’t want to give them money, at least give me something to eat.
What are your thoughts on this video posted by Khabib of him and his cousin paying homeless people to do press ups for money ... 🤔
Personally we feel it's disgusting and degrading .. Especially them constantly laughing at those involved .. 😡 pic.twitter .com / msE5i9ureE
- The video also spoke about the incident with MMA fighter Artyom Lobov at a New York hotel ...
- Why come up and arrange a skirmish in the hotel lobby, and even surround it? It only remained to start beating him.
- If Nurmagomedov went to deal with Lobov alone, would he react otherwise?
- Probably yes. This is a key point. He would have approached himself - there would have been no questions. But they took it into a box, filmed it all on camera.
- Why didn’t the moment with the bus or blow to the fan in the stomach be played in more detail in the video?
- I chose the most famous episodes that everyone knows. I wanted as many people as possible to understand my motive. But even now I am reproached for the fact that this is not confirmed, not true, invented by the author. They even told me that I had insulted Khabib’s wife. Apparently, they did not catch the association with the performance.
- How can you interpret the last scene of the video, where Nurmagomedov passes by beautiful girls and goes to the bathroom with teammates?
- I regard this as an ironic joke. A person actively expresses his homophobic position, but at the same time there is a photo on the network where he is in the bath with other men. If people didn’t know that it was Khabib and his teammates, they could have sneaked a variety of thoughts into their heads. In the context of statements about McGregor, Creed and Timati, it looks ridiculous. However, I do not consider Nurmagomedov as a representative of sexual minorities.
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- What else revolted you in the behavior of Nurmagomedov?
- You can recall how he did not shake hands with Tina Kandelaki or as he said that it is better for women to be fighters at home. You can also take the situation when Nurmagomedov defeated McGregor. Well done, he won in one wicket, he defended his belt. Why arrange a brawl, jump out of the cage when the whole world is looking at you? You set an example for people to behave this way. Yes, there were insults. But didn’t he know where he was fighting? That in the UFC there are elements of the show, thrash talk.
“Should you react differently?”
“You verbally offended, why fight?” He showed that he was the strongest, and after a few seconds he ruined everything. Many people did not understand this and ceased to support him. And others decided that if you were offended, then you can go and put it in the face. But we live in the XXI century, now we can’t do that. All questions can be resolved in words.