Faced with the controversy of a possible orchestration of the rivalry between Emmanuel Macron and François Ruffin, which has swelled since the revelation of a conversation between the two men, the deputy, close to France Insoumise, responds to the microphone of Europe 1. "I do not regret the exchange," he says.

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Did François Ruffin stage a staging of his rivalry with Emmanuel Macron? This is the "scoop" revealed on November 26 on Twitter by the activist and pamphleteer, Juan Branco, with as evidence a recorded conversation of September 12, 2016. At that time, François Ruffin, still editor of Fakir supports the mobilization of employees of Ecopla, an aluminum company in the Vercors, and seeks to attract media attention around its cause. During a hearing between Emmanuel Macron and the employees, the two men discuss. François Ruffin, deputy of the Somme related to insubordinate France, reacts to the controversy at the microphone of Europe 1.

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François Ruffin assures: "I do not regret the exchange at all". "It was in 2016 on the file of the workers of Ecopla.A journalist was present so it is not a secret conversation," said the MP, retracing the context of the time. "We squat Emmanuel Macron's campaign headquarters, and he tells us 'on this issue I did not do my job, I made mistakes, I take my responsibility.' It was said that it was good to tell us off, but that now we would challenge him in the public square. "

A conversation about the strategy to adopt

On the conversation revealed by Juan Branco and scripted by the Inrocks, François Ruffin calls Emmanuel Macron and gives him advice. "I think that if we think strategically, you have to be strongly challenged, and publicly, by the employees of Ecopla, it will be an episode, and then, that you answer it by saying: 'I'm ready to go move on place ', well it's a second episode, "he said.

The candidate Emmanuel Macron answers him: "Ok, ok ... [...] One: one exchanges on the file Two: one keeps you informed of the progresses Three: you, you challenge me publicly Four: in the wake, one hold together a travel date, October 5, or end of September, and we see how it is communicated together. "

"Today I am a member I would not practice at all the same thing, at the time I was a journalist-activist," says François Ruffin. "I had come to defend workers, completely abandoned, who did not exist for the public sphere, for power, for the ministry." In 2016, during the month of August, the editor-in-chief of Fakir meets these workers and decides to help them to go to Paris to be heard. But also help them to put the fate of their company at the heart of the news. This is how they "corner Macron" by squatting his campaign headquarters and that they go to repeat his mea culpa in public. "When an error is made, we do not want it to be said on a corner of the table, we want to unpack it in the public square."