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Tow. David (1976) and José Manuel Muñoz (1978). Tomorrow they publish their new album, Fuego , exactly 20 years after the day when two Cornellá brothers who worked in the Seat factory released their debut album. The rest is history.

Q: What is the first thing that comes to mind when you think about these two decades?

D: That have happened fast, very fast. The tenth anniversary made me feel old and I think it was yesterday ... I remember 20 years ago when we offered the whole band with vials of Ton Was, which are vitamins, because they gave us the news that we were number 1 and not We didn't even know what that meant. At that time we gave Ton Was cloth, after the concerts it was what we took to recover because we played 150 times a year.

J: Then I read that Ton Was that is bullshit, huh. That has destroyed us inside, but it made us work.

Q: Doesn't the motivation falter?

D: What gives you some laziness are the big tours, but going around composing with the guitar is still a joy.

J: It's the best of life, what we enjoy the most and we would have fun even if we weren't professional musicians. We don't do anything else, in fact. We wake up at the time that everyone is already working, so we both stay and play.

D: We have dozens of songs out there that we know will never appear on a disc. Sometimes friends ask us what we compose songs that nobody will listen to, but the songs are not made to be released on a disc or to please others, but to please ourselves. We have always started from that premise. We improvise, we record details, we polish it and then we'll see if it goes to a disc or a drawer.

Q: I have two children who are not able to play 10 minutes together without fighting for the clay and you have been working together for 20 years. Give me the trick, for the love of God.

D: We have always been together all day. It is a little sickly sometimes. Now we are going to swim together and down the same street, so people should think that two friquis go.

J: Even when we don't plan it, we end up together. We spend a lot that we connect each in our house to play the online game console and that just enters at the same time the other. And again together, now virtually. The algorithms unite us.

Q: What relationship do you have with your old hymns? Are you tired of 'The slit of your skirt', 'Like Shrimp', etc ...?

D: We love them, but they don't enjoy us as much as before. All artists have the obligation to continue offering something new, but in a concert you know what people are doing and that there will be 80% of old songs. We who are looking forward to singing are the new ones, we enjoy it more. When an old one comes you think pufff , but that's why the public pays and you must give it to them. They are also songs that solve many problems, because you arrive one day with a bad voice or worried and it doesn't matter because the public sings them for you and takes you. We go out with the game won in many concerts.

Q: You are one of the last bestsellers that appeared in Spain before the change of musical consumption model, selling millions of records to tens of thousands. How does the ego carry that downturn?

J: Naturally. The sale has gone down, but the attendance of people at the concerts has gone up. That is, we do not like fewer people, but consume us differently. We will fill twice in Barcelona, ​​two in Valencia, two in Madrid ...

D: They've sold out without listening to the album, that always bothers me a little (laughs). Now we have to measure the success of our records, it's normal. It's not something that worries us, really. We are not so greedy for ego or pasta. We are lucky not to live worried. As long as we see that there is interest, happy. We do not need more than we have.

P: When talking about you, you always repeat that "they are normal boys, fame has not changed anything". Let me doubt it ...

J: If normality is to continue with the same woman who was my girlfriend before, keep my friends, stay in my neighborhood, yes. We are normal

D: But of course we have changed, how not? By age, by experiences, by possibilities ... What does happen is that being from a working-class neighborhood, such as Cornellá, helps you to have your feet on the ground because you look around and see people with very different lives to ours, and you look back and you know where you come from and how it ends. We have never ruled out that happening. So, more or less, we have continued to make the same life. We are what we were. In that we have not changed.

Q: What luxury rock star have you allowed yourself?

D: We have all the consoles on the market ... but some have been given to us.

J: And sometimes we go on vacation to Formentera. That is a luxury for us.

D: Yes, but nothing very exotic travel, because for us to travel already ... I get depressed when I get on a plane, so doing it without being forced costs me. I am very much to be in my house and live a neighborhood life.

J: When we go to the town of our parents, Zarza Chapel, we don't take the car even to go to the town next door. It is not because of laziness, it is because around us we have everything we need.

D: Exactly. Beer, friends, tapas and little sun. That's life. I sometimes see artists with entourage, with many people behind ... Or celebrities who only join other celebrities. And I don't see myself reflected. Our friends are the usual, normal people of the neighborhood. It is where we are comfortable.

Q: Does it have to do with the fact that you never pursued success but found it by surprise while working on something else?

D: It fell on us. We have never had a clear goal in life. But we liked to make songs because yes and since we learned to play the guitar we have not stopped. If we had never released an album, we would have composed exactly the same songs, only nobody would have heard them.

Q: The Catalan rumba has gypsy origin. Have you been accused of cultural appropriation, such as Rosalia?

D: First of all say that cultural appropriation is fine. Point. Multiculturalism, catch and respect, are positive things. Can't I play an AC / DC type song because I'm not Australian? Come on man. It is to criticize for criticizing.

J. Taking things from other cultures only enriches.

D. We, the truth, is that we receive little criticism in that regard. But they call us garrulos, calorros, people from the slums ... They say it disparagingly without knowing that these supposed insults make me proud. We endure a lot of classism for being working class. Before and now.

Q: Still?

D. Sure. The other day we were in a hotel, we went swimming in the pool, we had to see macarras and the watchman came behind us to see if we had sneaked.

J. And when we go by plane and pull towards the business zone they ask us where the hell are we going. "Can you show me the ticket?" That keeps happening to us every two times three.

D. That in daily life. Then, in the world of music there is a lot of posturing, much that seems to have studied at Harvard and then na de na , but it is more around artists than the artists themselves. Among us I have not seen much asshole. We are not going to change worlds or salvanada . We make our songs, we don't want to project any concrete image, or appear anything. And we get along with everyone. Now we are crazy with Rosalia.

Q: You too?

D: I don't know her in person, but that she came out is wonderful. That woman has made my life happy. His way of singing, his videos, his interviews. It's a crack ...

J: Now she will be under a lot of pressure, but you'll see how she gets along because it's from Baix Llobregat, like us, and Baix marks you, makes you have your feet on the ground because you live in the real world and how it goes Your colleagues are going to tell you: "Where are you going, carapapa?"

Q: Speaking of Catalonia, you have no escape. You spoke at the time in favor of a referendum, but against independence. How have you lived the sentence and the riots it has unleashed?

D. We knew you were going to ask and we bring the prepared answer. Since everyone has such thin skin with this, we will own our silence.

J: Yes, and that shutting up already brings criticism, but we have learned to opt, even more.

D. What we said is in the newspaper library and we have not changed, but for once we are going to try to make the headline not political. We have our opinion as citizens, but today it does not touch. I am not interested in changing the world, I just could not. Those who have to talk about this are politicians, not us. And neither do they ...

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