Environmental Talk at "Maischberger": "If we get rid of the cars, that would be good"

"Religious War for the Car: Is Environmental Protection Going Far?" So that was even poled for talk show standards topic of the program. Invited were the Deputy FDP Chairman Wolfgang Kubicki, the 80-year-old journalist and author Franz Alt, the ARD science journalist Mai Thi Nguyen-Kim, the Vice President of the German Environmental Aid, Barbara Metz, the journalist Ulf Poschardt and a Stuttgart diesel driver, the from April could be affected by the ban.

The case study of the evening: At the beginning of the Stuttgart graduate merchant Marin Ivankovic described his personal problem situation: that he must start three different stations by car because of his children in the morning, but his 2014 Mercedes-diesel possibly no longer in front of his own house parking is allowed. The complaints of the German Environmental Aid, as a result of which courts in many major cities have ordered driving bans, he described as "shabby", but also said the policy to blame. Now the question is: "Who will get the cow off the ice?"

"I find it shabby what environmental aid does!"
Diesel driver Marin #Ivankovic is outraged by the upcoming #Drive ban in his hometown #Stuttgart. Who does he blame for the disaster? @Thefirst #maischberger #Environmental Protection #Abgas #Diesel pic.twitter.com/pQE0ciYg4l

The frontline of the evening: That the environmental protection goes too far, probably Wolfgang Kubicki and Ulf Poschardt signed. As environmental advocate Barbara Metz pointed out that the nitrogen oxide thresholds to be complied with exist since 2010 and are there to "protect the weakest", Poschardt accused her of "sentimentalization" and called her organization "a Abmahnverein". In fact, there is "a positive development in all cities".

Metz was supported by Franz Alt and Mai Thi Nguyen-Kim. Although the "Quarks" moderator and a doctorate in chemistry acknowledged that the defined limits were "somewhat arbitrary", she made it clear: "The less nitrogen oxides, the better." Asked about suitable measures by Maischberger, however, she remained vague: "If we get rid of the cars, that would be good." And: "Actually, we would need more drastic measures."

"Because it protects the weakest."
That's why ARD science journalist @maithi_nk thinks it's absolutely necessary to regulate the # traffic more. @ Thefirst #maischberger #Tempolimit #Degas #Stickoxide #Environmental Protection #Diesel pic.twitter.com/3YTaczOgUR

The exchange of the evening: When Wolfgang Kubicki wished for a "factual discussion", May Thi Nguyen-Kim turned to the FDP politician: "How can you then bring the candle example?" Kubicki initially gave himself innocent-uncomprehending ("I? Candle example?"), But then admitted to have already said elsewhere, a candle in the living room is more stressful for the health, as in Stuttgart to take to the streets. Pulmonologist debate reloaded, so to speak. "I was referring to what others said," Kubicki tried to argue. But the scientist continued: "So you do not believe that, you just referred?" As Kubicki stated: "Unlike you, I lack basic scientific knowledge."

The asphalt cowboy of the evening: Ulf Poschardt, editor-in-chief of the "world" group, Porsche driver and speed limit opponents, visibly pleased in the role of the politically incorrect car freedom fighter. He had recently inspected the new electric models with the VW CEO in Wolfsburg and was sure: "The invest billions to enable emission-free e-mobility, they do everything in their power." While Barbara Metz pointed out that such options would arise "when pressure reigns that they must arise," Poschardt believed that the market economy would regulate everything: "Capitalism works through seduction, not over compulsion." Incidentally, German engineers from "world-leading auto bloggers and journalists" continue to be "spectacularly celebrated for techno-chic elegance and perfection."

He referred to the cultural significance of the car, which is "for millions upon millions of people in Germany" a gift and great luck or even "tinny double of their own identity": "If we do not take this seriously, then we will turn away." He lamented a "bitchy moral tone" and "alarmism" and demanded: "We must ask: what can we expect the car industry without losing it?" There is "no second key industry in this country".

The green bashing of the evening: Franz Alts thesis that the auto industry is breaking itself, because they have not only tricked with exhaust emissions, but also overslept the development of the electric car, Wolfgang Kubicki would not share: The industry has long been awake. Rather, he sees a completely different problem: there are 456,000 storage hours a year in Germany, "if you would dissolve them by a sensible transport policy, which incidentally prevented the Greens everywhere, we would not have the problem with the limit values". The Greens had prevented many bypasses.

Does the Berliner spend more life in #Stau than in sex? Just in time for #Valentinstag asks @franzalt for the real # quality of life. # Mobility #Drive bans #Diesel #Tempolimit #Berlin @TheFirst #maischberger pic.twitter.com/PHj5ZJ9sXG

Poschardt also reproached the eco-party: at Springer-Verlag's headquarters in Kreuzberg, "which has been ruled by the Greens since 2000," there are not enough cycle paths and too much parking space - where most of its editors use their bicycles come.

The most absurd classification of the evening: When May Thi Nguyen-Kim found it significant and deplorable that "we have a Federal Transport Minister, who welcomes the opinion of pulmonary physicians," Poschardt defended the CSU department chief: "If Andi Scheuer as a great German anti-fascist that is not would have made it, the AfD had taken the topic, and it would have again given two to three percent.