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Where we see him so affable, so forward, the reality of
Carlos Sobera
is very different.
The man from Barakaldo doesn't like strong emotions one bit.
He is, in the words of
Jesús Calleja
, "a cagueta."
So stupid that when he accepted the adventurer's challenge to go to
Planeta Calleja
,
Carlos Sobera
only accepted with one condition: he would go if his wife
Patricia
went with him.
Jesús
Calleja
had no choice but to accept.
It would not be the only condition nor the only refusal of the presenter of
First Dates
, since rarely on
Planeta Calleja
has a guest forced the program to change the plans and structure of the trip due to panic.
Carlos Sobera
did it.
The idea of going to
Planeta Calleja
was none other than trying to get
Carlos Sobera
to overcome his fears.
He is afraid of everything: heights, water - he doesn't know how to swim, but he can dive -, devices that move more than two centimeters, unexpected movements... "For him, riding his bike around Casa de Campo "It's an extreme sport," his wife warned at the beginning of the program.
And he didn't cheat.
Television
Planet Calleja.
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The catharsis of Jenni Hermoso with Jesús Calleja: "I have never openly said that I like girls"
Jesús Calleja
, aware that with
Carlos Sobera
he would not be able to go climbing, paragliding, or risk much, organized him a, let's say,
light
trip .
It is true that if the intention of
Calleja and
Sobera
himself
was to try to overcome their fears, they would have to face some, but they were all a walk in the clouds compared to other
Planeta Calleja
installments that other guests have faced.
It didn't help much.
Carlos Sobera
said no and no.
"When you are afraid, I have been told that you lose your affable character and lose control,"
Calleja
told him at the beginning of the program.
"Well... I swear a lot," Carlos Sobera admitted with a small mouth.
Indeed, when fear takes over
Carlos Sobera
, the presenter stops being the presenter we all know and becomes a kind of scary Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
Like a cowed animal that all it wants is to escape from terror, run forward, flee.
It must be recognized that
Carlos Sobera
tried.
Jesús Calleja
took him to Montenegro to live six experiences: riding a boat, going on a cable car, rafting, doing a slight mountain route with an electric bike, riding a horse and going on a chairlift to fly over one of the great mountains of the region. country.
Out of six he got four.
It's not bad at all.
But there were two that he couldn't handle.
In the first he ended up on the ground and in the second he made the entire team have to descend for more than two hours due to his refusal to repeat the experience.
I don't know if
Carlos Sobera
ended up overcoming his fears, but enjoying what he says he didn't do is as true as a temple.
Already in the first experience of the trip, which was none other than getting on a boat to cross to the town of Perast,
Carlos Sobera
was reluctant, although he ended up accepting.
He managed to overcome the first of his fears of the movement of the boat and the water.
Already in Perast, sitting quietly in a restaurant, enjoying a cake and the sun that was shining when the program was recorded,
Sobera
returned to being the
Sobera
that we all know.
It was there where the theater presenter and producer spoke about his childhood in Barakaldo, about the depression he suffered when he was 8 or 9 years old due to the sadness that the city produced in him.
"The Barakaldo of the 60s was gray. I had some symptoms of depression when I was 8 and 9 years old from being there. I have the soul of a poet and I value beauty a lot and Barakaldo was not pretty then,"
Sobera
revealed .
In addition, he also told what he was like at school and that his professional beginnings were as a teacher: "When I was little I had some comprehension problems. Does the thing about the lyrics with blood coming in sound familiar to you? Well, that's it. At school they shook me. I studied in the Paúles de Barakaldo and then with the Jesuits of Deusto I studied Law.
I never practiced as a lawyer, but I was a teacher
."
He was a "very cool" teacher, although "he was a bit of a bastard with the exams."
His passion for theater, acting, and the public arose in school when he started a theater club.
There he realized that he was fascinated by contact with people and made a decision: he stopped being a teacher to dedicate himself to the world of show business and entertainment.
"When I told my mother, her phrase was: 'But son, what are you going to do?' Now, at 96 years old, she is very proud," said the presenter.
Sobera's anger with Isabel Pantoja
And after a moment of rest and peace came the second test: going up by cable car to the sanctuary that is considered to be located at the highest altitude in Europe.
The water thing, okay, but the height thing... It was the first moment in which
Carlos Sobera
lost control.
Yes, he swore, he had already warned him, and he even asked
Jesús Calleja
to shut up.
"He's really screwed,"
Calleja
said .
Sobera's face was, indeed, one of having a hard time.
But he came, he did it.
Just like in the third test - it looked more and more like The Twelve Tests of Asterix -.
Calleja prepared a rafting descent for him.
This time
Carlos Sobera
really enjoyed it.
He liked the rapids, although it must be said that he had to end up with his right hand bloodied from so much force with which he grabbed the safety rope of the boat.
I think he rowed three times, the rest was just holding on and shouting "hey, little bull, hey!".
But things began to get complicated after the second talk of the program.
While
Carlos Sobera was calm, chatting, answering
Jesús Calleja
's questions
, everything was fantastic.
In fact, the presenter dared to answer which of all the
reality shows
he had presented was the one he liked the most and which famous person he had had his hand in and his least with.
To the first he responded that
Survivors
, to the second...
Isabel Pantoja
.
Surprise!
"When I get angry, I get very angry. I got a little angry with
Isabel Pantoja
and then she got angry with me. I did the program on Tuesdays and when I got to the set the director told me that
Isabel Pantoja
wanted to leave and I had to convince her and I had to give him the candle,"
Sobera
confessed
.
However, of all the programs that she has done and that she does, which are not few, the favorite was Volverte a verte.
"Faith is the one I liked the most, although it was a very hard program because they were very strong stories."
Strong what was going to come next.
Although Patricia had warned
Jesús Calleja
that for
Carlos Sobera
riding a bike was an extreme sport,
Calleja
prepared a mountain route for him - everything must be said, very mild - with an electric bike.
He had barely gotten on the bike when a wasp stung
Sobera
.
It hurt him, it stung him and on top of that he became obsessed with the fact that it might not be a wasp but rather a native bug, you know.
She already started with problems.
It was very difficult for him to control the direction of the bicycle and to that he had to add that his leg hurt from the bite.
As long as the road was flat, everything was fine, but when the route started to get a little complicated... It was over.
She tried, stopped several times and tried again and again.
He even made
Calleja
hold him by the back of the bike, but it was impossible.
Carlos Sobera
was really scared.
And just as
Jesús Calleja
told him before starting the route, if he was thinking all the time that he was going to give it to him, it would happen in the end, and it did.
The presenter took a big hit with the bike and
Calleja
had to change plans: he would arrive at the lake where the finish line was on a bike and
Carlos Sobera
riding bike in hand.
And there at the lake,
Calleja
took advantage of the fact that
Patricia
had to come no matter what to talk about the beginnings of their relationship and their most difficult moments.
And, again, Sobera, now calm and once again under control, said that his thing was a crush.
Very different from what Patricia felt, that she couldn't stand
Carlos Sobera
until she met him.
The couple recounted some of the most complicated moments they have experienced, for
health problems.
Especially for
Patricia
, who suffered a
stroke
in 2019: "I thought about her, that we had to
Do everything possible for her
.
And then I thought, how could she die, what a bitch she is.
She was like a tremendous cesspool," confessed the presenter, who also had a hard time due to a fistula: "she became infected and
caused me to have the beginning of gangrene.
She felt tremendous pain, but we Basques put up with everything. "Well, everything, everything... Everything except what
Jesús Calleja
gives you ."
Carlos Sobera's panic
The last test was the chairlift and that's when I know everything got out of control.
Carlos Sobera
had a really bad time.
If in the previous ones he was "screwed" in this one he was very screwed.
"Do you think this was necessary?" the presenter said over and over again to
Calleja
as they went up.
"It is not necessary, it is not important, it is not relevant, but I think we must have the aspect of daring,"
Calleja
replied .
"Look at the appearance of the two 'chickens' that are going to take us (...) I will never get involved in this again in my fucking life," said
Sobera
, terrified.
And to top it off,
Calleja
asked him if he was religious and his relationship with death.
You have to keep them square... "Before it overwhelmed me," Sobera
told him
that he couldn't articulate many more words.
Upon arriving and having to return,
Sobera
stood up.
"I'm not going down the cable car. I've already gone up, I'm not going down anymore
. Don't touch my nose!
Don't tell me there is no other alternative
,"
Sobera
warned Calleja very angrily
that he kept insisting.
"People will say that we are doing a little theater, but, no, it's true. It doesn't go down, it's screwed," warned the adventurer who even tried to cut his toenails by biting them because the presenter said that they hurt when going down.
And in the end everyone walks.
"The whole team is going down a path, the woman is suffering and the other guy has now gotten over his displeasure and has started singing, and he's going to give us a hard time for 2 hours and a half or three. We'll probably
get caught out." night, because he didn't overcome the fear of going down
. He did us a favor!"
Calleja
concluded , hallucinating the guest.
Because if there is something that
Carlos Sobera
showed last night , it is that he has things very clear and jumping through certain hoops is not for him.
"I envision that they will retire me," he told
Calleja
at one point in the program when he asked him about his retirement -
Sobera
is now 63 years old.
"The same thing happens to me like Karlos Arguiñano, but the normal thing is that they tell you 'you have been very good but there is someone better'. I love television, but the day I have to leave it I have other things: I have a family, I have the theater and "I have a mind that leads me to think about other things."