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He has barely entered his twenties but Goorgo already has more than two million people pending each video he publishes on his YouTube channel. Behind his stage name (read 'yior-yo') is Jorge Orejudo (1999), a boy, affable, mature and disciplined, who was too small to be simply a youtuber .

Spiky and with platinum blonde hair, he draws the attention of some schoolchildren who are visiting the newsroom of El Mundo before the state of alarm.

- "Hey, is that Goorgo?" Asks one of them.

Instantly, dozens crowd the entrance turnstiles of the building to claim a photograph while they shout his name.

"Please, let's get out of here, he's going to get involved." Goorgo is really uncomfortable being the center of attention of all eyes.

QUESTION - How do you carry success, fame?

ANSWER - I do not like being known, I have never liked it. In fact, this year I am, so to speak, tolerating more. But it was very difficult and it made me very nervous when there were crowds of people and they asked me for photos or whatever. It was one thing that bothered me. Because in the end they ask you for a photo and the photo is silly, that is, you take it and talk. You like it and that's fine. But you create a phobia around that, you get crazy and you have your moves.

Goorgo created his channel when he was just 13 years old . He rose to fame recording his online games of Call of Duty , a war video game that by age he could not even have played. He spent years making his studies and YouTube compatible, entering the Pompeu Fabra University to study Business and Management . So, he had to choose. "I liked both lives but on YouTube they had given me an opportunity and I had to take it yes or yes."

Q - In the end, you are young people. You have to see each other in more situations like this

Yes, what happens with YouTube is that if you suddenly become very well-known in Spain, you start earning pasta very young and that is not being won in any other industry . And you are very lonely. If you become known in the cinema, in music, quickly you have a team around you. Here, perhaps, you are very well known and you are in your room, alone, without understanding anything . It forces you to mature very quickly.

Q - Are you obsessed with the number of visits to your videos?

The problem with YouTube is that those numbers translate instantly into your head for success, money, respect . That is like the big problem, that everything is so connected with a figure that you see on the screen mentally. You have to stop and say: no, this is independent. Because it can even affect your self-esteem. Everyone goes through that time and everyone has their own things to avoid it. But it's like the big fight you have.

Q - Have you suffered anxiety, as other youtubers have confessed?

It is a topic of conversation that we talk about a lot. I don't know if anxiety, because I haven't been to the doctor either, but you do have that feeling. All youtubers, or all young acquaintances, I honestly think I should go to the psychologist . Not for nothing but because you don't have a normal life and it's difficult to speak it.

Q - What has been your trick to get away from it?

I think Heretics has helped me a lot at the level of I am not going to obsess over this, I am going to get something that is long lasting, and I am going to look to the future.

The Team Heretics of which he speaks is the team that he founded in 2016 with two colleagues and that competes in eSports , official videogame tests ruled with players, referee referees and thousands of contestants. An example: the final of the League of Legends World Cup in 2019 averaged 21.8 million viewers . According to the Newzoo consultancy, the global income of the eSports market will reach 1,593 million euros in 2022.

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Q - Is it easy to create an eSports team?

It has been hard as hell. It is super complicated. More than anything because if you look we come from nowhere, literally three kids. The clubs we compete against are backed by huge funds, by super big brands, by telemarketers ... In the end we are fighting a war with sticks and stones. But hey, we shot. Right now we are the most followed Spanish-speaking club.

Q - Do you think eSports will grow much more?

I think they will grow. In other words, I think their expectations of them will be met. Think that each person who is born will consume the internet and will consume eSports. I do think there is too much hype, the whole bubble is a little swollen and I think this year, these two years, it is going to slow down a bit. In the end it happens when there is an industry that they say is going to go very well. A lot of hype is created around them, they invest a lot of money blindly. I think that these years the thing will be corrected, but it is not a fashion. Internet is not a fad and this is not either .

Q - With the YouTube channel, social networks, the team ... Do you have days off?

No. That is, days off from doing nothing, rarely. You always have something, you are always pending, that is really the problem. In a job, let's say, normal - don't get me wrong I don't change my job for any - but in a normal job you get home and don't do the same thing you were doing. You're in an office and you don't come home, you turn on the computer and you go back to work. You disconnect, so to speak. That disconnect of saying I'm done and I'm done here doesn't exist . That is a problem because you are always pending.

Q - Can you be a youtuber and have friends from outside that world of YouTube?

Yes, actually, I appreciate the outer circle more than the inner one . Because the circle inside, at the end, is work. They know you for work. It is true that my best friends are in that circle, but there are many interests involved and it is difficult to differentiate.

Q - In this circle of youtubers it is common to move to Andorra to pay less taxes, what do you think of this? Would you go

It is a highly debated topic. Many people say it is evading taxes. In other words, it is not evading taxes. That is one thing and going to live in a country and paying taxes in that country is another thing . I'm going to live in Germany and I don't pay taxes in Spain, I pay them in Germany. I go to the US and pay taxes in the US. Although it is true that you go to Andorra to pay less taxes .

I would not go, but because of my way of being. Because I know that, no matter how much I paid 10% instead of almost 50%, I would not be happy. I know myself and I have to live here. Right now I live in Madrid, downtown, it is what makes me happy. And also because I think that I have always been in a public school, in a public hospital ... I have always benefited from the public and now, well, it does not seem to me at all ... There is a moral debate to say, hey, now you earn pasta, are you leaving? It doesn't seem quite fair to me . It is true that it is deeper than good or bad. Much deeper than that, many layers and many arguments. Very valid on both sides. But I, for now, stay here.

Q - Do you feel responsibility to have so many young people aware of what you do?

Don't be misunderstood, I think I have a responsibility, but I don't feel it . I think if I messed it up I would feel bad but since I try to be natural ... If I created a character I would be nervous because it's not me. He is a character and be careful what that character says. I am as I am in front of the camera, behind, here or outside.

Q - Do you think a lot about your future?

Yes, I am a person who turns everything around and thinks a lot. I've come to a conclusion, but it's not clear, so I can't tell you.

Q - But where do you see yourself?

I have always liked many things, I do not close to anything. Youtube when I don't like it anymore, when I don't have a good time, I'll leave it. I don't see myself on YouTube at 40 years old . I do see myself in the entertainment world. From inside doors I love it, I like being in front of the camera, I really like being behind the camera. I do see myself in this world all my life.

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